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Subtlety is the Melee DPS specialization of the Rogue in WoW: Forever. This page summarizes its talent tree as it appears in the beta client (build 1.60.1.69913); the role is the one stated by the Icy Veins guide for the specialization.
The class's three trees, with the talents the Icy Veins guide recommends at level 20 in colour and all the others in grey. The small number on the left of each row is the points you must have spent in the tree to reach it. Point counts are shown when the guide states them; otherwise only the talents are named. This section is fixed: it does not move and does not depend on the calculator.
Icy Veins also mentions two effects without naming the talents (reduced Stealth cooldown, more movement speed); they are not marked here.
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Icy Veins: improved Ambush.
Icy Veins: recommended, but can be dropped (see the variant).
Icy Veins: can be dropped together with Ghostly Strike (see the variant).
Icy Veins variant: taken by removing Ghostly Strike and Setup.
In order of importance, according to Icy Veins.
Icy Veins advises prioritizing Haste and Expertise while admitting uncertainty about how Haste works in Forever.
What the Icy Veins guide lists for this specialization.
No source publishes a best-in-slot list or enchants for this specialization yet: the Icy Veins Forever guides only cover level 20 for now and do not detail them. The dungeon items below are ranked by rule from the stat priority and are not a best-in-slot list. This section will be filled when a source publishes them, with nothing invented on our side.
Icy Veins guide dated 2026-09-19, read on September 21, 2026.
A shortlist: the best item for each slot across the known dungeons, from this specialization's stat priority. Open a dungeon to see all its items filtered.
| Slot | Item | Stats | Drops from |
|---|---|---|---|
| One-hand |  Prison Shank | +6 Agility · +2 Stamina · 17.88 DPS (1.8 s) | Stormwind Stockade |
| Main hand |  Wingblade | +5 Agility · +2 Stamina · 15.74 DPS (2.2 s) | Wailing Caverns |
| Off hand |  Shoni's Disarming Tool | +6 Spirit · 20.63 DPS (1.9 s) | Gnomeregan |
| Legs |  Triprunner Dungarees | +3 Strength · +18 Agility · +6 Stamina · +101 Armor | Gnomeregan |
| Chest |  Tunic of Westfall | +11 Agility · +5 Stamina · +92 Armor | Deadmines |
| Shoulders |  Mantle of Thieves | +10 Agility · +3 Spirit · +4 Stamina · +77 Armor | Razorfen Kraul |
| Finger |  Ironspine's Eye | +4 Strength · +9 Agility | Scarlet Monastery |
| Waist |  Belt of Vindication | +7 Agility · +3 Stamina · +57 Armor | Stormwind Stockade |
| Feet |  Lancer Boots | +7 Agility · +6 Spirit · +8 Stamina · +73 Armor | Razorfen Kraul |
| Hands |  Wolfclaw Gloves | +5 Strength · +6 Agility · +6 Stamina · +61 Armor | Razorfen Kraul |
Ragefire Chasm · Deadmines · Wailing Caverns · Shadowfang Keep · Blackfathom Deeps · Stormwind Stockade · Gnomeregan · Scarlet Monastery · Razorfen Kraul
These are the deepest talents in the tree: they require 30 points already spent in the specialization. Official game text, at maximum rank.
When your Rupture ability deals periodic damage, the Energy cost of your next Hemorrhage or Backstab ability within 10 sec is reduced by 3, stacking up to 5 times.
Talents you take only once, with their tier (official text at maximum rank).
A strike that deals 125% (180% if a Dagger is equipped in your Main Hand) weapon damage and increases your chance to dodge by 15% for 7 sec. Awards 1 combo point.
Adds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost.
When activated, this ability immediately finishes the cooldown on your other Rogue abilities.
An instant strike that deals 100% weapon damage (145% if a Dagger is equipped) and causes the target to take 15% increased Rupture damage from the Rogue. Lasts 15 sec. Awards 1 Combo Point.
Each line is a tier of the tree; in brackets, the talent's maximum rank.
| Tier | The tree tier by tier |
|---|---|
| 1 | Camouflage (5) · Master of Deception (3) · Opportunity (2) |
| 2 | Setup (3) · Elusiveness (2) · Dirty Tricks (2) · Improved Ambush (3) |
| 3 | Initiative (3) · Ghostly Strike (1) · Improved Distract (2) |
| 4 | Heightened Senses (2) · Premeditation (1) · Serrated Blades (3) |
| 5 | Dirty Deeds (2) · Preparation (1) · Hemorrhage (1) |
| 6 | Quietus (5) · Cutthroat (5) |
| 7 | Thousand Cuts (1) |
Open Rogue in the talent calculator
Spend your 51 points, compare the three specializations and share your build by link.
This page gives no rotation or spell priority: the client does not provide them and we do not invent them. The data will change when the game launches on November 4, 2026.